‘Pantsuits & Lawsuits’ podcast addresses how free speech is under fire

In an episode of “Pantsuits and Lawsuits,” Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel and Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes discuss the sweeping pressure campaign against the First Amendment — in briefing rooms, on city streets, and across shrinking newsrooms — with an unflinching look at how intimidation, lawsuits, and funding threats are changing the way America speaks and learns. 

From protest crackdowns to restrictive policies at the Pentagon, Nessel and Mayes trace how best practices are abandoned and dissent turned into a risk calculation. 

They trace how the news media, universities, law firms and nonprofits juggle First Amendment attacks from the Trump Administration. They share concrete steps on how to push back: collective action among schools and firms to spread the legal risk, smarter support for local journalism and public broadcasting, and a recommitment to rigorous reporting over viral bait. 

They talk about national outlets that can lawyer up, local stations that can’t, and why even a single settlement can send a chilling message across the entire industry.

Veteran reporter Mary Jo Pitzl  joins the attorneys general during the episode to explain how newsroom economics, algorithmic incentives, and headline gamesmanship can reshape coverage, nudging editors toward safe choices and audiences toward confusion. Her decades of experience on the beat have made one thing clear: when institutions accept control over who asks questions and what gets printed, the public will never get the answers they deserve.

“When our institutions are pressured into silence, our democracy becomes weaker,” Nessel said. “I am glad Mary Jo was able to come on the podcast to discuss how the realities of shrinking newsrooms and interference from government officials shape the information that we all rely on. Whether in the media, in law offices, or in our communities, it’s essential that we stand together to protect the places where truth and ideas can be reported, debated, and defended.” 

The podcast also follows the pressure beyond media. Universities juggle academic freedom against the threat of defunding, law firms face retaliation for their clients, and nonprofits fear hosting events that could draw political ire. These choices create a quiet chill—self-censorship that never makes headlines but erodes civic life all the same. Nessel and Mayes share concrete steps to push back: collective action among schools and firms to spread the legal risk, smarter support for local journalism and public broadcasting, and a recommitment to rigorous reporting over viral bait.

The episode is available  on major podcast platforms. New episodes are released biweekly.

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